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Comments on Jonathan Lear: Why Does Irony Matter? Socrates, Kierkegaard and Psychoanalysis

Comments on Jonathan Lear: Why Does Irony Matter? Socrates, Kierkegaard and Psychoanalysis

I thought it was rather slow to get started, but Lear raised some good points and I really enjoyed when he started tying his abstract arguments back into reality. I didn't like the long rambling academic prose, but when he spoke with less arcane phrasing and more concrete examples I found the whole thing very thought-provoking. -PD

I didn't get the whole grading parable, but it did sound like he thought that grading papers was not the best direction toward student learning. Isn't it ironic that this principle fits in well with my history in Tutorial to date? -SR

I thought some of the individual points Lear made were interesting, such as the ironic questions about the ducks and Christians, but the overall presentation lacked focus. I also thought he had no awareness of his audience; Convocation is supposed to target the general Grinnell College population, but he just jumped into this esoteric ramble. His lengthy "irony while grading" spiel reminded me of a Woody Allen who actually takes himself seriously. He should be able to spe speak about his area of expertise in under an hour, even if he must give the caveat that his lecture is simplified compared to his book. I know for a fact that he is unable or unwilling to do so. Lastly, I drank a Diet Coke just before Lear started talking and was awake for an entire Convocation for the first time! ~MH

As soon as I received that handout, I had a feeling that today's convocation was going to be more complicated. Well, it seemed that way to me anyway. Lear's rambling lost my focus, and I will admit that I actually fell asleep for short periods of time (which probably contributes to my inability to really understand what he was talking about most of the time). --AC

In convocation on Thursday, I guess I was expecting something a little more entertaining than what seemed to be presented, but that may have came from reading some of the handout about irony. My perception of irony has always been humorous, or sarcastic, but I learned that irony can be presented in a much more sophisticated and philosophical way. I thought it would be more interesting I guess because I read the “is there really a duck in a group of ducks” (something along those lines), but I cannot actually say if that part of the presentation was amusing or not because I was unconscious at that point. I may have actually made it farther into the lecture awake than what I did had it not been for the introduction. I remember zoning out maybe 5 minutes into the woman speaking about the speaker and then snapping out of it and thinking “wow she is still talking about him.” Overall, it was not a very productive convocation on my part. --MC

When I was waiting for the convocation to start I was optimistic that not only would I stay awake the whole time (due to the eight hours of sleep the night before), but I would also enjoy listening to Mr.Lear. I also thought it would be one of the more humorous convocations because of its topic. However, Mr.Lear decided to take a different approach. For part of the time I enjoyed listening to Mr.Lear's, but about half way in I couldn't exactly follow along with what he was talking about and drifted away into my own thoughts. It definitely wasn't the worst convocation I've been to, but certainly not the best.--AF

When I first read the title of the convocation, "Why Irony Matters," I thought, "How vague."And as I read on into his handout, I became increasingly more confused. When Professor Lear started speaking, I, at first, was significantly more confused. Probably because there was no definition of "irony" and I was unsure of what to expect -- as it was obviously not the usual usage of the word. However, after intermittent lapses of confusion and understanding, I finally caught up to his point of "ironic existence" half way through his lecture. Afterwards it was significantly easier to following along and even venture to anticipate his upcoming points. I think it's because I'm driven by the question "What makes us 'human'?" that i found the convocation quite on the interesting side. Professor Lear addressed his points really well, and considering how little background some audience members (such as me) have on philosophy, it really is impressive that some of us also managed to extract so much out of this dense presentation. --CT

This convo was quite interesting, since I knew what Mr. Lear was saying. I have to say that he has been the first to do not use the power point presentation and instead use paper. I agree with some of the points he was making about irony, but disagree on others. I agree with him about Socrates being the ultimate irony example and that he lived such an ironic life. I did not quite understand some of his example of irony like the ducks and others like it. Mr. Lead had a very excellent way of organization his evidence to us as to how to show the different layer of irony. I have never thought of irony as different layer, I have always categories irony in different genre, but he did open my mind to think more abstract about irony and other terms. He also touch about our life being irony and about the matrix, which was awesome. --ME

After reading the pamphlet, it was clear to me that I wasn’t going to understand Lear’s presentation. My lack of understanding, coupled with overall confusion over the stories, along with Lear’s beginning speech tone, made it really hard to concentrate. It’s a shame, because I was actually interested in the topic of irony. –RC

As I walked into JRC 101, I was optimistic about the convocation. Quite tired from last nights work, the topic seemed like it would arouse my interest and keep me awake. I was wrong. He had no power point presentation and he talked for a very, very long time. It was like watching Dances With Wolves. 20 minutes through it puts you to sleep, you get up after what seems like a super long nap, and the movie is still playing. Although I did dose for quite a portion of Mr. Lear's presentation, I do agree he had a few good points about Irony and Socrates. His nice little handout is informative yet very boring. I hope this week's convocation is more stimulating. -SD

I was anticipating a very interesting convocation last thursday. The topic seemed interesting and I thought it would provoke good questions and comments. However, it failed. MISERABLY. He spoke of irony differently than I thought he would. I have always associated irony with something funny or coincidental, even. I felt like he went into too much detail about the socrates. Most of what he spoke went over my head. Looking forward to a better convo this week. - SA

Sarcastic Comments

FIRST! ehem. I was hoping to get this up before Sam woke up, but nooooo he cheated and emailed us beforehand! Also, today's napCount: >= 7.--PD

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